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Bernstein here isn't that bad, but I do need to make one point about the EPI: they have the same problem that AEI, Heritage, and other policy advocacy organizations have -- I know the answer to the question before I read their opinion on it. The poor get screwed, somehow the market is broken and we need to do something to compensate low paid workers, median income is the best measure, etc. Their research certainly isn't wrong, per se, but they no doubt have a partisan line, and they always find data to support it (as an example of an alternative, maybe once they could release a paper that takes skill-biased technical change seriously, rather than just dismissing it out of hand (possible interpretations of my own work notwithstanding)).

Ian,

Isn't there something positive to be said for an organization such as the EPI that is watching out for the worst off among us? This is unlike the AEI and Heritage who generally are committed to (as Family Guy put it) helping those who can already help themselves.

I understand that you're concerned that the EPI has an angle that they are working from, but if their research is well-founded and logical is it right to assign them the same credibility gap of Heritage?

Power corrupts.

Apparently, being close to power also corrupts.

If all one had read was the opening and the closing paragraphs of this oped, one might have thought they were drunk on Kool-aid. While we can find some interesting portions of this oped, it does appear that Karl Rove had a hand in writing this. Alas.

By this same reasoning, Beethoven lived for 57 years, has been dead for 179, so 2.5% of his music has been written under George W. Bush.

(This is a Tom Lehrer gag, adapted for the occasion)

Ian, while it's possible for partisans to spin facts or select facts to create a false impression, it's impossible in a fair debate for falsehood to win. That's the essence of scholarship. If the EPI's view were wrong, I'm sure you could explain what they are missing.

As for me, the data paint a consistent picture of declining middle class standards of living. Lazear and Baiker's methods of presentation also paint a consistent picture: of hacks.

Ian

I work at EPI, so, I'm doubly-biased, I guess.

But, the foundations of my lefty politics are pretty empirically based: the poor do get screwed, many markets (insurance, say) are broken, many workers have indeed failed to share in produtivity gains, and, the median is surely a better measure than the average for talking about general trends in living standards.

Of course, many look at the same facts (and, that's what EPI argues with, facts) and come to different political conclusions. Fine, but, part of the value-added here is precisely to show that understanding economics does not dictate a particular political world view: too many people think that the discipline supports only conservative to centrist policy prescriptions.

I would think that pointing to a large fall in college graduates' wages is indeed "taking skill-biased technological change seriously". And, Jared and Larry have written a serious-by-any-measure evaluation of the SBTC argument in "Is the technology black box empty? An empirical examination of the impact of technology on wage inequality and the employment structure."

The link to it from our site is corrupted, but, it was serious enough to be cited by a bunch of the leading scholars in the inequality field.

I'd also argue that we don't really have a "partisan" line - we don't like Bush Admin policies, for sure, but, we (well, not me, i wasn't here yet) took plenty of shots at the Clinton Admin when they didn't do things we liked. We have a pronounced political outlook, but, it isn't partisan and it is driven by, not blind to, facts on the ground.

As evidence of the last, see the Benefits of Full Employment by Jared and Dean Baker - we're perfectly willing to point out when things are going well, like when the late 90s boom drove up wages for everybody.

joshb

By Ian D-B's criteria, any academic economist who maintains a consistent position over a long period of time -- such as the dominance of "skill-biased technical change" in income inequality -- should be dismissed as an advocate. There is this common presumption that hewing to a centrist position or opinion makes one objective, while supporting a radical left or right one bespeaks bias. An economist who does well working for a corporation his or her entire life commands respect, while one working for a trade union does not.

Why are academics so stupid?

Here's a serious paper by us on SBTC, in a serious peer reviewed journal, with many serious implications:

"Technology and the Wage Structure: Has Technology's Impact Accelerated Since the 1970s?" (with Lawrence Mishel). Research in Labor Economics, Volume 17, JAI Press: Greenwich, CT. 1998.

I thought serious academics were supposed to keep track of this kind of stuff...

People who play that 'split the difference' game, IMHO, are more often dishonest than stupid. It's a way of avoiding having to take a position, and it favors both dishonesty and power. The liar doesn't mind splitting the difference between his lies and the truth; he gets more than he deserves, and can always lie more, to move that middle ground over some more. Power has more opportunity to propagate those views, and in that way can shift things over (not to mention that it's been a long time since I saw a 'contrarian' whose 'contrarianism' didn't end up supporting the position backed by more power).

People who play that 'split the difference' game, IMHO, are more often dishonest than stupid. It's a way of avoiding having to take a position, and it favors both dishonesty and power. The liar doesn't mind splitting the difference between his lies and the truth; he gets more than he deserves, and can always lie more, to move that middle ground over some more. Power has more opportunity to propagate those views, and in that way can shift things over (not to mention that it's been a long time since I saw a 'contrarian' whose 'contrarianism' didn't end up supporting the position backed by more power).

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