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Brad, great link.

Thanks for the link, Brad.

Hastings, like most UK conservatives, has decisively ditched the neocon nonsense.

Here's Sir Malcolm Rifkind, former defence and foreign secretary and one of Thatcher's original cadre, speaking last week:

"There must be a clear recognition that the invasion of Iraq was a serious mistake that has helped the terrorists. It has also made Iran the power in the Gulf. While the government may be in denial, there is no need for the Conservative party to be. That does not mean, however, that British troops should be withdrawn from Iraq. It is essential that they remain there as long as their presence might help the Iraqis."

"Conservatives should not accept Blair’s simplistic belief that all Muslim terrorism is part of a single plot. Conservatives are rightly suspicious of a Manichaean division of the world into good and bad; terrorist and freedom-loving. The war in Chechnya, for example, is between Chechen nationalists and Russian nationalists, not between terror and freedom. The same applies to Kashmir. The Israeli–Palestinian issue is also much more than a battle against Hamas and Hezbollah terrorism."

"Conservatives should reject a philosophy of pre-emptive wars (or, as Blair prefers to call it, liberal interventionism) fought by ‘coalitions of the willing’."

All the old conservatives on both sides of the Atlantic seem to be falling over themselves to get to the left of the Left on the neocon misadventures in recent weeks.

If it wasn't for the Dems trying to get to the right of the Right at the same time it would be funny...instead its becoming a farce.

Regards, Cernig

The other thing about Haestings is that he is very close to the Army. He has written several books of military history, and was, notriously, the first man into Port Stanley in the Falklands War.

If he is the former editor of the Daily Torygraph, please keep in mind that they are Blair's opposition. Of course the Tories are poking holes in the wisdom of Blair's war follies.

Hastings has been clear-eyed on Iraq for some time.

It's also wrong to paint him as a "right-wing Thatcher acolyte". He is, as Newshog writes, "as Tory as they come", but it's in an old-fashioned, pre-Thatcher Tory sense.

Hastings followed his editorship of The Daily Telegraph as editor of The Evening Standard, London's rather poor daily paper, where he was generally well to the left of most of the modern (pre-Cameron? -- too early to tell) Conservative Party.

Sublime indeed. Can we somehow transplant him into the upper echelons of the Republican party, where his viewpoint could have some impact?

I keep telling people that 90+% of my objection to GWII is based on conservative precepts.

Sooner or later they'll get it.

Hastings' quote: "...on Saturday [Bush] linked the British alleged aircraft plotters with Hizbullah in Lebanon, and these in turn with the insurgents in Iraq and Afghanistan."

Hell, aWol might as well also link HIV-AIDS, heart disease, and cancer in with that hodge-podge of bogey men.

Hastings' views are not politicking after the fact. There were others -- Conservative as well as Labour MPs -- who predicted the current mess of Iraq before the invasion began. One of these was former Conservative Minister, Ken Clarke, who spoke against the war in the House of Commons debate on the war prior to the invasion, arguing against primarily on the grounds that it would only inflame Muslim opinion against the West, and make terrorist acts against the west more likely, not less.

With no greater ascess to the future than anyone else, Clarke's prognosis was 100% correct. Blair cannot say he was not warned of the consequences.


Oxford educated, war correspondent, military historian with an impressive list of books, and knighted!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Hastings

He is obviously someone who can accurately report the details of wars as well as write on their significance as they unfold.

Perhaps it is a different conception of education (as opposed to narrow professionalism) that makes him different.


"Brit rightwing - a lot saner than the US rabid version"

- excuse me, we are talking about the Daily Mail here, no?

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