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"Many Democrats, on the other hand, no longer even try to imagine what action and responsibility are like"

Yeah, it's been forever since they had anyone in the executive branch. Not since olden times.

"Browsing through a used-book store Friday -- in the Milwaukee airport, of all places -- I came across a 1981 paperback collection of George Orwell's essays."

I don't suppose it happened to burn his fingers when he picked it up?

"And, if I may say so, the quality of thought of the Democrats' academic and media supporters -- a permanent and, as it were, pensioned opposition -- seems to me to have deteriorated as Orwell would have predicted"

This, from the vile servant of Rupert Murdoch. What a disgusting wretch.

A very Rovian tactic--attacks based on the apparent area of strength of the opposition.

The hackiest-hack of the fascist wing of the language-distorting, ever-lasting war party attacking the Democrats using Orwell!?!

What RPM is Orwell at today?

Kristol-satiric master or dunce?

Brad has good takes on the awfulness of the SCLM etc, but the sad thing is: enough people want that trash out (like the ones that gave us the last seven+ years) even in a paper rag, and there are enough that will buy on momentum, that the NYT can blunder on for decades to come. What we need, is someone like Soros to buy it out and clean house.

Brad has good takes on the awfulness of the SCLM etc, but the sad thing is: enough people want that trash out (like the ones that gave us the last seven+ years) even in a paper rag, and there are enough that will buy on momentum, that the NYT can blunder on for decades to come. What we need, is someone like Soros to buy it out and clean house.

Too bad Kristol (the advocate of invasions) didn't underline and use this passage from Orwell's essay:

No one, in our time, believes in any sanction greater than military power; no one believes that it is possible to overcome force except by greater force. There is no "Law," there is only power. I am not saying that that is a true belief, merely that it is the belief which all modern men do actually hold.

Nice to think, though, that Kristol Lite surely paid far more for his Kipling than the going rate (Renaissance is a rip-off bookstore). Of course that is if he bought it; maybe he just read it there, or stole it?

Orwell says: "Yet it remains true that he has far more interest in the common soldier, far more anxiety that he shall get a fair deal, than most of the ‘liberals’ of his day or our own. He sees that the soldier is neglected, meanly underpaid and hypocritically despised by the people whose incomes he safeguards."

Things have changed since Orwell's time, and it's the American left, not the right, that's done its best to expose the shameful way our soldiers have been used up and discarded.

On the other hand, it's the Bush Administration that had National Guard units deployed for 729 days, not because it was a particularly nice number (which it is), but because deployment for 730 days was the threshold for their receiving benefits that would have cost the government a hefty sum. It's the Bush Administration that's done its best to claim that the Iraq War version of shell-shock was attributable to pre-existing conditions so the government wouldn't have to pay. It's the Bush Administration that made a mess of Walter Reed.

And the outrage from the patriotic right? Must've been deafening, because I don't hear anything.

Orwell's first paragraph pretty much sums up the Southern Strategy employed by the Republicans since Nixon. Kristol's analogy is apt and, as part of the machine, unmasks his own immorality. He sees nothing wrong with it. None of them do.

Are we supposed to believe that Ms. Himmelfarb's son had never read that essay until he found it by chance in the Milwaukee airport? Gimme a break.

Where was that "sense of real-world responsibility" when Katrina made landfall? Where was a good "quality of thought" at Abu Ghraib? It's not that we shouldn't fight, but that where and who and how we fight matters.

One shouldn't be surprised that every text seems to Kristol a Rorshach inkblot, in which he sees his own world-view reflected. He's done too much in the cause of blood to see anything else.

Why is William Kristol held in any greater respect than Jonah Goldberg? It's as if ignorance of source material is a prerequisite for conservative punditry.

(I still remember the smackdown delivered here to JG about fires on the American prairie. )

>Paying writers like William Kristol $5 a word for prime content holes, I don't give the New York Times as we know it another decade.<

And we get an, in context, extract of such a beautiful piece by Orwell for free! Thanks Brad

Orwell found Kipling "aesthetically disgusting" though admitting his quality as a writer. This suggests a partially tin ear. It's a travesty to reduce Mrs Hawksbee (with a w), Kipling's razor-sharp Simla doyenne, as "posing in front of palm trees" - of which, as Orwell must have known, there are none in this mountain resort; the Raj built the place to get away from the heat. Orwell also disapproved of Gaudi as vulgar. He's admirable, but his tastes are not authoritative.
But both Kipling and Orwell understood, from very different starting-points, the temptations and vices of imperialism. Kristol just doesn't get it.

Whenever I read something like this, I am reminded of a Jon Stewart quote which pretty much sums up the article's/post's sentiment:

"Oh, Bill Kristol...Are you ever right?"

What got me is that Kristol expounds on Orwell's essay on Kipling, but hasn't read Kipling. At least, not that I can tell.

Kristol is the one sniggering, here. He puts zero effort into this crude psychological trap, but he obviously believes the Republican base is so inept and so damaged that they'll fall right in.

it may well be that the Times is actively seeking new, neo-con readers. Consider just the very recent inanities on the Op-Ed page: Maureen Dowd with crude sexist jokes, Nick Kristoff with a apology for John McCain (Nick: McCain's lying shows what a straight talker he is); and Kristol using the author of 1984 to argue for more government latitude in surveillance on its citizens. There's been a drift in the Sunday Book Review to more far-right reviewers as well. I tend to think its more just the brain ossification that affects the Sulzbergers ("he quoted Orwell? What an intellectual!"), but maybe there's a business strategy--how many more liberals can they get to subscribe to the paper, anyway?

Kristol is a strange target. So idiotic that it is hard to miss, but idiotic in so many ways that you must leave dozens of targets un-hit in the first few salvos.

Like you I noted the absurdity of claiming that Orwell supported warrantless wiretaps (you know *he* never really loved Big Brother but, it seems, Kristol missed that subtlety).
http://rjwaldmann.blogspot.com/2008/02/william-kristol-on-orwell-and-kipling.html

but, like you, on my first try, I neglected to mention that Kristol's paean to responsibility concludes by saying that it is irresponsible to not grant amnesty to lawbreakers
http://rjwaldmann.blogspot.com/2008/02/kristol-meth-not-responsible-below-i.html
and to expect the executive to respond to questions asked by legislators (Bush is the paladin of irresponsible government in the technical meaning of the term).

I have not yet noted just how far in opposition Orwell was when he wrote his essay on Kipling (let's just say very close to Ward and very far from Whinston Churchill).

However, I don't know about this death spiral business. I resisted the temptation to pay for Time select just to read Krugman, but if I had to pay to access the incomparable comic excellence of Kristol, I would be seriously tempted.

Until you understand fascism, you cannot understand the way modern America views its soldiers. Until you understand the way a nation can pick one man, and elevate him to a myth- to believe him to be the embodiment of all the positive traits they associate with their country, you cannot understand why American soldiers are so sacrosanct.

Nor can you understand why we turn on them so quickly when they fail to live up to our mythical visions.

NYT as we know it dead in ten years?

Consider how thoughtless and ill-informed most readers are. How many of them only glance at the front page and then skip to the sports section? Will they even notice something is inaccurate when they read it? Is there enough active opposition to such nonsense to actually change something? How many kids these days play video games instead of reading?

You read Kristol (and the NY Times) so I don't have to. Thank you.

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